On our way to Paris via New York. Trips like this will be impossible once the goats and hens arrive so I am cherishing the opportunity.
The young man sitting in front of me reclined his seat with such force I nearly lost my teeth. When I asked him very politely to recline gently, he refused. He told me that he could not think of any reason why he should.
Now, had this been Delta I would have expected such rudeness but Virgin America? No, not here, not on my countryman Richard Branson’s airline.
It is exactly this attitude of entitlement that has turned the great United States into a third world nation run by arrogant, corrupt, entitled politicians/bankers with little consideration for each other or anyone else. The attitude of indifference politicians have for the people percolates throughout the nation.
The man who rammed his seat into me might have said, very simply, “Oh I’m sorry, I should have considered that.“
All would have been well.
That’s what we would have done. The British. We apologize immediately when we know we are wrong. This young, foolish man decided, at the point of enquiry, to attack me. A very silly thing to do as I am now jamming my knees into the back of his seat.
There is a notion that any apology, owning up, making amends etc. is a sign of weakness and it pervades American culture. The stress this self-righteousness causes and ignorance it generates shortens lives (Americans statistically live less years than anywhere else in the developed world). It keeps them poor and makes people across the world uniformly hate them.
I moved to the USA for a reason-I believed that one could be truly free. Sadly, I don’t believe that any more. What changed my mind? Hurricane Katrina changed my mind when I heard how folks treated one another-the government ignoring the devastation. The Bailout changed my mind when I saw that the Wall Street elite would never be punished for their mindless avarice but instead became richer and more entrenched. Lastly, the attitude of those around me who blame the unemployed for unemployment, the homeless for being homeless, who don’t see the benefits of socialized medicine, who ignore how many children are being killed not only in places like Afghanistan but also in their own country due to poor health care and nutrition.
The young man sitting in the seat in front of me had no idea that he represents to me everything that is bad about this great country. That he would inspire an essay that will ultimately embrace the socialist thinkers of my youth.
I am proud to come from a country that may (or may not) pay higher taxes yet one can get free healthcare, an education and rely on those about you to give a damn.
What happened to America? What happened to the America I aspired to? Did it even ever exist? Was the Brady Bunch a myth?
It breaks my heart to see that today whole families are now in homeless shelters. The soup lines of the 1930’s have been replaced with food stamps. The evidence of extreme poverty is merely disguised. Even my Russian taxi driver noted just how many homeless people there were on the streets of LA-yet, even here amongst the homeless exists a dumbfounding arrogance.
A friend of mine devoted his holiday to helping the homeless by working a homeless shelter and delivering blankets to those who lived on the streets. He reported that occasionally the poor would throw back the blankets and demand money, they would say, “We don’t want blankets, we want money.” The same people would insult and degrade the people who doled out free food.
Poverty and homelessness does not necessarily engender humility. Why should it? Perhaps when a man loses everything he only then begins to fight for his life. I imagined, incorrectly as it turns out, that there was a community of homeless on skid row helping one another to survive. Just as I naively thought that there would be a community of actors helping each other in Hollywood.
Hasn’t history taught us that when we work together we can overcome adversity? Ah, history-another American casualty.
I have, of late, started to think of myself as an old fashioned socialist. Like Michael Foot or Tony Benn. I have been remembering their rhetoric and rereading what they believed. I read and I believe Tony Benn. I trust him.
Five questions Benn insists should be asked of any powerful person: What power have you got? Where did you get it? In whose interests do you use it? To whom are you accountable? How do we get rid of you?
I remember when I was 13 years old my stepfather mocking a badge I wore that said solidarity with the miners. He accused me of not knowing what the badge really meant. He was right, I didn’t really know. I wanted to know. All I knew absolutely was that there seemed to be some unfairness in the world and it needed to be addressed. I saw that there were people, unlike my stepfather, who refused to believe in absolutes, who understood the world to be more convoluted, complicated, chaotic than I had been taught.
So, my solar energy investment is just not an investment in me but in the planet. The goats eating the brush for the well-being of the environment. Pumping spring water into the vegetable garden to benefit us all.
The psyche of the British has been unmistakably molded by years of thrift after the Second World War. We have a desire to make do and mend, to bargain hunt, to work an allotment, restraint. Frugality is still perceived as a virtue.
The people of Great Britain, France and Germany all live with elements of socialism that run hand in hand with capitalism. I can assure you that the sort of socialism we in Europe live with works.
What in capitalism is ever ‘too big to fail’? When did it become ‘socialist’ to care about our fellow man?
In a country that routinely says it devotes itself to Jesus where is that Christian teaching evident?
The airplane is getting bumpy and hopefully the silly boy in front of me will have gone to sleep. I am going to forgive him. That’s what I do-I forgive. I can’t imagine him being able to do the same any time soon.
I most certainly agree. We’ve been destroying a system fir years. I’m afraid, in fact scared shitless, that we are turning into the society from Idiocracy. We need to step up, help others, get off our high horses.
I volunteer at a local Humane Society. It’s
Heartbreaking to see these wonderful animals left in pens ad I pray they get adopted.
Also, a person tries to do better, there is an unspoken insinuation that the person has an agenda ulterior to simply helping out of pure kindness of heart.
Love this essay. I think this is why I have always had a fondness for England. Why can’t people be more considerate of others?
Hear hear!
Capitalism has become our real national religion -
it is so disheartening.
All of the above. Not all of us Americans are so shallow and hypocritical. There are a lot of us who genuinely do care and are not afraid to admit our faults. Unfortunately, the opposing population are the ones who speak and act the loudest. Thank you for another beautifully written blog, Duncan.
Oh my God! As a fellow Brit living in the States, I just totally understood where you were coming from when you wrote this! And thank you for reminding me about Tony Benn. He was/is such a great man!
I think you get rudeness and politeness wherever you go. I know some pretty damn rude Brits. I think you’re more likely to encounter rudeness in big cities where people do have a more dog eat dog mentality. But I know some really cool, considerate people who don’t act like asshats. Gotta represent for my peeps.
Sadly, I must agree with your commentary on the land that I love. It does truly make me sad to see so much entitlement and arrogance today, and not just from the teenagers, but from every generation. I think those feelings come from deep seeded fear and neglect of the basic needs of humanity, and I don’t mean needs that are provided with finances, but the human touch. My husband and I were talking about this very thing today. He’s Australian, and considers himself a Socialist as well. We were talking about the slow implosion of a nation that he loves, you love, and that I certainly love. I do agree with Steph. Not all of us are like the young man in the seat in front of you, and some of us try to instill values and plain old common courtesy in our children. Thank you for not abandoning this country, but for doing what you can do improve it. Thank you for still acknowledging what a wonderful place America can be.
1st of all I am sorry for the rude person on the plane. I myself feel very uncomfortable with many peoples attitudes. I am happy you have come here to live. I beleive in the beautiful dreams you express in your blog.
However, I promise all poor people and /or homeless people are not rude or ungrateful. I am one of the millions who lost my job in the last couple years, I was let go for being too sick to do my job anymore.(and because my medical bills were the highest in my insurance pool?) I lost my insurance when I lost my job, and now, for almost two years, I have been without medical care for several life threatening illnesses. I don’t appreciate that my children watch me deteriorate, I feel its unfair to them. I have considered ending my life to keep myself from being a burden on them if I get worse. I have lost everything because of circumstances I did not create.
We are taught if we always try to do our best, work, try to be good people things will work out in life, however, sometimes its just not true.
I miss my old life, a job, a home, garden, rabbit, health. (dignity, some pretence of security) Maybe what some of the homeless people were expressing inappropriately was anger and disappointment or disillusion??
I wish my children had a better life, they didn’t ask to be stuck with a sick Mom.
My youngest will graduate from high school in 4 years, I believe in miracles so I will be alive and ok, so I can celebrate with her. And my biggest wish for my children is that they find a way to go to college so they can hopefully have a good life.
If the worst happens and I am not around, I have written a book for them to receive. It’s all someone like me can give. Duncan please don’t lose faith in all of us, yes, some of us are a mess, but, we are doing the best we can. Hugs to you!!!!
I couldn’t agree with you more regarding your comments about the differences in character between the British and Americans. I have never felt like I belonged in a place as much as I did when I was in the UK. It really shouldn’t be so hard to be NICE…it’s a simple thing, yet the vast majority of Americans can’t seem to get it. Every culture has its idiosyncrasies, but all in all – the people in England were far and away the most pleasant around. Oh, and to explode a stereotype – the people in Paris were the most friendly. It helped that I didn’t rudely assume that they spoke English (as most Americans do), and bothered to at least get a basic knowledge of their language and culture. Most Americans travel and expect the world to conform to them – it’s really much more interesting to immerse oneself in the culture that one is traveling in.
Duncan – I am reminded by your excellent post of an aphorism from, of all things, Star Trek: “The good of the many outweighs the good of the few or the one” which statement the logical Mr. Spock accepted as “axiomatic”. In my 50s, I work with Gen X-rs and Gen Y-rs – people aged ~25-40. They act entitled, rude, narcissistic and most of all feature the arrogance you so elegantly describe. Put these people in positions of authority and the power abuse is… breathtaking. Agree with you they are also remarkably unrepentant and lacking in any sort of humility. My boss has ordered me to apologize to a 30 year old Vice President in my workplace whom I called out on her rude behavior. And I will apologize, because the model of making amends is an important Christian witness. Duncan, please continue to reach for higher ground and share your inspirations. My growth as a human has greatly benefited from your honest sharing.
Duncan..this is such a good blog..I absolutely understand the arrogance of the (not all) american pysche…Living on the usa/canada border, it is a different world. We are very fortunate to experience a Canadian feel when I travel to Duluth Minnesota (me being in Thunder Bay) (you should visit sometime!!)..We Canadians get mocked by the Americans for our complacent polite behavior..It is looked upon as weak,comical..I dont care…I treat everyone with kindness and understanding…Dont know why they are in a bad mood..Not for me to decide..Case in point..Someone flips me the bird as I made a minor mistake on the road..I wave…(do they know me???do they become embarassed??) I just know,it makes me chuckle..I like how you handled the guy on the plane…Someone may have pissed in his cornflakes that day…..when you do the unexpected..you sometimes get plesantly surprised!! Have a great day Duncan!!;)
Good way of putting it Leslie!!!
Duncan, again, I frequently enjoy your blog but here you’re arguing way beyond your evidence. The guy who reclines his seat too abruply On an airplane represents everything that’s wrong with this country? You can do better!
Personally I would have turned about and apologized before you even had the chance to say anything and genuinely felt bad for having done it. Then again, I am a Canadian.
This reminds me of all the people who say that teenagers are worse than ever. I work with teenagers every day, meet them in the stores and on the streets of our town. I don’t believe they are any worse or better than previous generations, even when for far too many, family support is shaky if it exists at all. Their parents are working long hours so they can chase the “dream” of huge televisions, larger than ever homes, and all the other stuff that implies success. Or, they are struggling harder than ever to make ends meet, to simply put food on the table. And kids are under tremendous pressure to become something other than what or who they truly are. All in the pursuit of the “dream”, whatever that is.
On the other hand, we have also spent the last couple of decades, perhaps longer, telling children how special they are, without teaching them skills of self-reliance and resiliency, and without instilling much sense of community.
Of course, I am speaking in broad terms…there are many wonderful parents and wonderful kids as well…in spite of all the bad news that seems to surround us.
Duncan, I have wanted to ask you how you came to possess all the positive characteristics that you have, in spite of your horrendous childhood experiences. Did you have someone in your life who you felt loved and supported by? Did you have mentors or role models while you were young? What inner beliefs or strengths do you have that held you together and made you resilient and good?
I admire your zest for life!
Don’t get too discouraged – some of us wouldn’t behave so rudely on a flight!
i don’t THINK the america you imagined was a myth. i grew up here believing that and, of course, am now vastly disillusioned. i am a child of the 60′s, and we cared, we really did, and i have fought for the rights of others my entire life. for the past 30 years, i have been fighting for my own constitutionally guaranteed rights, and to no avail.
i am collecting my social security benefits now, and biding my time for a year or so, thence to take myself to costa rica. its warm, people are more than polite, and there is affordable health care for all.
i may fall flat on my aging ass, but i have believed all my life, no guts, no glory.
That’s weird… I’m American, and I avoid conflict when possible, and apologize when I even suspect that I might be in the wrong.
As an American who has lived in Europe and Asia (several years at a time), I have to agree that as a culture, we have a sense of entitlement and self-involvement that doesn’t exist elsewhere on anywhere near the same scale. This self-defeating grandiosity is most obvious in average US citizens who espouse/perpetuate the myth that a public health insurance option will somehow “destroy our way of life.”
Ignorance and selfishness will be the death of America, not universal health care.
Duncan,
Unfortunately the behavior exhibited by the man in the seat in front of you is becoming commonplace, it disgusts me. Common courtesy has gone the way of the Dodo, I held the door open for the person behind me today and they just breezed by, no thank you or acknowledgement at all. During Christmas shopping I was standing in the checkout line, frustrated and hating crowds anyway, I was trying to cope with all the noise. The man behind me in line had his earbuds hanging out of his shirt and his music blasting, I asked if he could turn down the music and he just flat out said, “No, bitch”…nice.
I agree about the ignorance and selfishness, it is sad.
That guy sounds high up on the ‘asshole’ scale. He had no consideration for others around him then tried to make an additional problem it seems.
The lack of decency going around is like a disease. Someone is an ass to somebody else in an uncalled for situation. The person on the receiving end of the ‘assitude’ can be put in a bad mood and repeat the cycle. It’s like everyone is trying to put everyone else in a bad mood these days. I admit I am not always immune, but if I’m called out or catch myself I apologize.
The rude ‘homeless’. The way I see it is there are BUMS and then there is the HOMELESS.
Bums just don’t give a shit. They want you to give them money so they can get their next drink or drug or whatever. They’ll HARASS anyone and everyone. They don’t plan on bettering their situation. They are almost always filthy, grimy, dirty. They will not just dig through trash, they will scatter it all over the place. More likely to dig through trash for food because any money they do get goes to their poison of choice. They are content living on the streets and being scum.
The true homeless tend to take better care of themselves than bums. They are not comfortable on the streets. They want to still try to look decent, they want to find work. They are more likely to showcase some talent for street performance tips rather than straight up begging. IF they beg it is often particularly for food or if you give them change, however little, they are thankful. They are less likely to dig through trash because they spend what money they are given on food. They want to get off of the streets asap.
Those of you who have turned this into a rant against the homeless and immigrants…how many of these people, and they are PEOPLE, do you know well, know their life stories? None? thought so…
I can say I’ve personally known quite a few people who were at some point in their lives homeless and know the stories of a couple of the ‘regular bums’ in my area (was involved in filming a few years back in which they were interviewed). I know the truly homeless don’t stay homeless.
Many of the seasoned bums fake mental illness so they can yell random crap around passerby’s (note that I said AROUND and not AT, this yelling is usually directed at a parking meeter or news box) yet still get change because people will sympathize (coming from their own mouths) and also to ward off people who might otherwise want to harm them. The older generation of bums are not as rude or aggressive as the newer ones. The newer bum generation will actively and directly harass everyone and usually are seen on and off around an area, usually because they get arrested for a couple of months for their volatile behavior.
The ones who do seem to truly have mental illness are usually quiet and don’t even actively panhandle. If they do any ‘crazy talk’ it isn’t usually to an object (parking meeter for example) but is to the thin air. They also don’t seem to be around an area for very long. One could assume someone who knows them locates them and/or they end up getting treatment.
When you grow up in a city and acquire some street smarts you can generally tell the difference between the homeless and bums, the fakers and the ill.
Rudeness, coming from anyone at any time, is always irritating and sometimes frightening, because you don’t know what else the rude person is capable of doing.
Rxy, I have lived in a large city, a village, and a small city. In each of these there have been the kind of people you are describing. However, it is my belief that no one is born with the innate career plan to become what you call a “bum”. Yes, they are making choices about how to behave, but I have learned that people who have been damaged by others quite often don’t understand why they make the choices they do, nor do they have any idea of how to change their behaviours. It is also frightening, once a pattern is set, to contemplate change because they can’t see what will fill the gaps created by change, or they can’t begin to imagine themselves as anything other than useless to society.
Another consideration is that the people who are “bumming” off society, even if they seem sane to you, are more than likely mentally ill to some extent. There are so many causes and countless projections of mental illness that I feel it is wrong to assume that we can immediately recognize whether or not someone is “crazy”.
The truly sad thing to me is that our societies do so little to prevent homelessness. Even in Canada, with our “socialized” health care system, our government closed the doors of many institutions that housed mentally ill people who immediately became homeless or nearly so.
I am not sure what the big picture solutions are to any of these problems, I can only choose my own course of action–which is to try to see each person as someone with a history.
I believe that your reaction to the rude person (which was correct and admirable) came about partly from your own level of age and experience. I think most grownups, no matter where they are from, eventually learn the value of common courtesy even if they aren’t taught it as children. Empathy comes with age and experience, because your frame of reference widens. People do mellow.
I know I was quite a snot when in my twenties and thirties.
What has happened to manners ? Do parents still teach them to their children ?
This is disheartening because I have two teenaged sons who have been taught to show courtesy and would most definitely apologize if they thought they had offended someone. I don’t like them, or me, being lumped into a category of rude, young Americans. I personally know two Brits who are assholes and I would never assume that the entire country is made up of assholes. Some courtesies may be declining, but I would not be surprised to find that that is true globally, not just here.
I figured I’d catch up with the posts I’d missed & get my Duncan fix….I typically enjoy a good Duncan Roy rant, but WOW! Several aspects of this one just annoyed the hell out of me!
I’m sorry that the kid on the plane was a rude jackass, but his behavior was certainly not a function of his nationality, and he hardly demonstrated any stereotypical “American behavior” by what he did. If all (or even one tenth) of this country’s citizens acted that rudely toward each other, there would be non-stop rioting in our streets. That kid was an asshole not because he is American but because he chose to be an asshole. Period.
Although I have always been a hopeless anglophile and have enjoyed my many visits to the U.K. (as well as living in Manchester briefly), by now I’ve become convinced that, proportionately speaking, there are just as many rude, entitled, xenophobic and unapologetic individuals in the U.K. as there are in the U.S. I also find it ironic that someone would decry the horrors of American society and posit that Americans are selfish, arrogant or self-righteous in their stubborn sense of superiority, yet in the next breath explain why, for all intents and purposes, he and all other Brits are themselves SUPERIOR beings. That strikes me as being neither hunble nor polite. Of course there are some cultural differences between these two countries/societies, but these days it seems to me there are more similarities than differences….and lately neither one seems to be getting any closer to perfection.
Further, the statement that, statistically, Americans live for less years than people living anywhere else in the developed world is simply not true. As far as developed countries go, America’s average life expectancy falls somewhere in the middle of the list….as does Britain’s. The average life expectancy for Americans is 75 years. The average life expectancy for Brits is 75.3 years. And I seriously doubt that stress, induced by the self-righteousness of Americans, is what’s keeping that number down in the U.S. of A. Many, many factor into the average national life expectancy, including but not limited to diet, ethnic diversity, pollution, driving speed and various life choices. One change, such as introducing some form of socialized medicine, might not make any notable change either way.
And of course the Bush administration’s response to Hurricane Katrina was indeed a disgrace, but I don’t see the connection between the reaction (or lack thereof) of one dreadful politician & his cronies to a weather related emergency and the “true freedom” of America as a whole. Same goes for the bailout…I didn’t like it when that happened, but I am certainly no less free because of it. And as much as I wish there were a system of universal healthcare in this country, the fact that it hasn’t happened is not due to a general lack of freedom either. As Americans we are free to elect representatives who will establish any healthcare system of our choosing. Unfortunately many Americans continue to use their freedom of choice to elect people who’ll make sure such a universal system is always blocked. It’s sad to me, but at the same time I can certainly understand some of my fellow citizens’ hesitancy to embrace this sort of socialized medicine. I’m pretty sure their disapproval is not solely due to their fear of socialism. Most likely, many people also consider trust as a factor. I mean to say, is it really reasonable to expect people to trust that their government can successfully create and administer a huge, expensive national healthcare system, fully covering well over 300 million individual citizens, when that government has already proven itself to be painfully dysfunctional in the administration of every other agency it oversees? As it is, the U.S. already spends more per capita on healthcare than many other developed countries, and there’s a good possibility that increasing that spending in order to create another government agency wouldn’t necessarily improve anything for most citizens. Anyway, despite this country’s many problems, to suggest that the U.S. has become a “third world country” where children commonly die from starvation or lack of adequate medical care is absolutely ridiculous. That idea is pure hyperbole and has no basis in fact whatsoever. There is currently a slump in the economy. This is clearly a global thing. We are not, however, in the midst of another Great Depression, and America is not down and out.
Lastly, I’ve lived in this country for several decades and with the possible exception of Rush Limbaugh (or perhaps one of his idiotic fans) I have NEVER personally heard any American blame the homeless or unemployed for being homeless or unemployed. Seriously, not once. You must be hanging out with a rough crowd if you’re hearing that a lot. It should be obvious that those who happen to hold these extreme views do not represent the majority of Americans. There are all sorts of organizations and agencies, both public & private, which are devoted to helping people in these situations. I think it’s totally inaccurate and unfair to paint this deliberately skewed portrait of some stereotypical uncaring, ugly American and then contrast it against some sunny, idealized version of the evolved and enlightened Brit, when in fact neither of these characters really exists.
And now I shall shut up. Sorry, but I just couldn’t stop myself from ranting against this particular rant! It got my hackles up…whatever hackles are.
Dear Cathy, thanks so much for your spirited defense of the USA. I would urge you to read other comments if you don’t believe that some people blame the homeless and the unemployed for being such. I am afraid you are kidding yourself if you think that the recession is a slump and is affecting the rest of the developed world in the same way the USA is being affected. Please read Huffington Post for analysis. Thx love. xx
Just wanted to say Duncan, I am not blaming the homeless for being homeless, just pointed out that there are a few who do choose to live a life on the streets.
Also to Cathy, I don’t think Duncan was calling every individual American rude, but making an overall observation. Like someone saying the French are rude. Also remember he lives in a busy city in America, the cities are indeed packed with rude people moreso than small-town/country/suburban areas.
Thank you, Duncan…particularly for the love! I’m afraid that since I’ve already gotten my little rant out, I don’t have much fire left in me. If you’d care to rant against the evil empire of America and its despicable citizens again, it honestly wouldn’t bother me too much at this point:-)
I will address a couple of points which you were kind enough to share in your reply to my reply. I didn’t mean to imply that the U.S. economy is being affected in precisely the same way as every other country – just noting that many other country’s economies are currently in the midst of an economic downturn and I see no compelling reason to assume that the U.S. economy is in a state of permanent decline or, IMO, even a serious longterm depression. I do read Huffpo and enjoy it. At the same time I don’t think it’s a good idea for one to limit his or her intake of economic analysis to a single source, especially when that source has a tendency to show a good deal of bias. That’s why I aslo try to read economic news and analysis offered by the NY Times, Wall Street Journal, the BBC, CNBC, etc. I cannot bring myself to watch Fox News though. Ick!
Also, I don’t think I declared my belief that mobody, not even “some people” (in America) blames the homeless or unemployed for being homeless or unemployed. I actually noted that there are clearly some uncaring and/or intellectually challeneged Americans, such as Rush Limbaugh and his ilk, who do just that. I wrote that, excepting one of these people, I have never personally heard anyone make such a statement. I had breezed through these comments already, but at your suggestion I more carefully perused them just now. I found just one mention of the unemploymed. It was posted by a commenter who had once been unemploymed herself, and there was no criticsim or blame expressed in her comment. I also found three (well, two and a half really) instances where commenters made a distinction between “homeless people” and “bums.” Although it’s not particularly nice to label someone as a bum….especially in the U.K) there’s really no denying that some folks who appear to be without a home are in fact loitering on the streets for other, more nefarious reasons. There are indeed grifters, panhandlers, ex-cons staying off the grid, drug addicts who flatly refuse treatment, etc. The existence of these types of street people is indisputable, and it seems to me that your commenters felt it was important to make a distnction between them and those Americans who have actually lost their homes due to some unavoidable circumstance or lack of governmental aid or whatever. And now that I think about it, I think making that distinbction is important too. As matter of fact, I have a young nephew who falls into this category of street dwellers. He hates to work but loves his drugs and insists he has no inention of ever giving them up. He refuses any help from his family (who certainly have the financial means and are willing to do whatever it takes to improve his situation), he ignores his friends’ efforts to help him out and everyyone else’s as well. Yes, I suppose he is technically “homeless” at the moment, but for him this really is a life choice! SO…I’m sorry but I don’t see how anyone can reasonably argue that your commenters here represent the fact that average Americans are in the habit of “blaming the homeless for being homeless.” Their comments make for pretty shoddy evidence of that if you ask me. Plus, Duncan, you yourself described American homelesss folks as being arrogant and rude. Was that really any loftier or less rude than anything your commenters offered?
Miss Manners is probably spinning in her grave after reading some of the ideas expressed on this page….if she’s IN her grave I mean. She died, didn’t she? If not, I’m terribly sorry for assuming you were dead, Miss Manners. I should send her a card, right?
Great Post! As a Canadian I’m confused by the American fear of socialism. I love my cousins to the south, but why spend billions on war yet be afraid to spend anything on health care?
I am Canadian. I would have likely apologized..then bought you a beer.